Comments on: Molly Ivins isn’t for Clinton http://faboomama.com/2008/02/04/molly-ivins-isnt-for-clinton/ Inside the mind of an opinionated mama... Fri, 03 Sep 2010 23:51:33 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: faboo http://faboomama.com/2008/02/04/molly-ivins-isnt-for-clinton/comment-page-1/#comment-1045 faboo Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:36:20 +0000 http://faboomama.wordpress.com/?p=1332#comment-1045 Clinton and her finger tests...it annoys me to no end. Over the summer, there were a number of items where leadership was needed. Clinton waited until Obama did something before she stepped out. Take the Fox News Debates. The black blogosphere had been pushing for months to get the CBC to cancel the debates with Fox. Then the liberal blogosphere finally got into the act. Then some people in the black blogosphere decided to contact the candidates. John Edwards had already said that he wasn't going to attend the debates. Sen. Clinton was waffling on the debates, she said that if the went on Fox they could reach more viewers. IIRC, that was Biden and Kucinich's line too. Then Sen. Obama said that he wasn't going to attend the debates. About 6 or 8 hours after Obama's annoucement, Clinton announced that she wasn't going to do the debates. Then the news cycle became "Clinton, Obama to withdraw from Fox Debates". Very few of the news agencies mentioned that Clinton had waited for Obama to make a move. That was just one instance, but just about everything she did and said between May and Oct. was like that. She didn't release anything until Obama did AND he got a good response. Is that leadership? To say one thing and then change your mind to what your opponent said just to say "me too".? Gosh, I wish I could remember the vote. I'm thinking it was FISA. It was a big vote and Obama was on the campaign trail, but going back to DC to vote. Clinton was already in DC and you could see her on the floor. They ran the vote and she abstained and abstained. Time was getting short and Obama was still not on the floor. Aides rushed in to get his vote counted at the last minute. Her aides then ran up to get her vote counted <b>after</b> his. I watched all of that on CSPAN in utter disgust. It was a bill where Democrats should have shown solidarity and she waited until her opponent voted so she could say, "me too". That's not the sort of president I want or need. I already have an ineffective buffoon for a president. I don't need one who can't make a decision without seeing what others are going to do first. Clinton and her finger tests…it annoys me to no end. Over the summer, there were a number of items where leadership was needed. Clinton waited until Obama did something before she stepped out.

Take the Fox News Debates. The black blogosphere had been pushing for months to get the CBC to cancel the debates with Fox. Then the liberal blogosphere finally got into the act. Then some people in the black blogosphere decided to contact the candidates. John Edwards had already said that he wasn’t going to attend the debates. Sen. Clinton was waffling on the debates, she said that if the went on Fox they could reach more viewers. IIRC, that was Biden and Kucinich’s line too. Then Sen. Obama said that he wasn’t going to attend the debates. About 6 or 8 hours after Obama’s annoucement, Clinton announced that she wasn’t going to do the debates. Then the news cycle became “Clinton, Obama to withdraw from Fox Debates”. Very few of the news agencies mentioned that Clinton had waited for Obama to make a move.

That was just one instance, but just about everything she did and said between May and Oct. was like that. She didn’t release anything until Obama did AND he got a good response. Is that leadership? To say one thing and then change your mind to what your opponent said just to say “me too”.?

Gosh, I wish I could remember the vote. I’m thinking it was FISA. It was a big vote and Obama was on the campaign trail, but going back to DC to vote. Clinton was already in DC and you could see her on the floor. They ran the vote and she abstained and abstained. Time was getting short and Obama was still not on the floor. Aides rushed in to get his vote counted at the last minute. Her aides then ran up to get her vote counted after his. I watched all of that on CSPAN in utter disgust. It was a bill where Democrats should have shown solidarity and she waited until her opponent voted so she could say, “me too”.

That’s not the sort of president I want or need. I already have an ineffective buffoon for a president. I don’t need one who can’t make a decision without seeing what others are going to do first.

]]> By: WCharles http://faboomama.com/2008/02/04/molly-ivins-isnt-for-clinton/comment-page-1/#comment-1044 WCharles Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:59:04 +0000 http://faboomama.wordpress.com/?p=1332#comment-1044 Now that you found something on my blog to use, I am so going use a lot of your post! :-) I wasn't aware of most of the changes in Hillary's positions you describe here. Those examples and your concluding paragraphs all reinforce some things I have said about Hillary, namely that 1) forget about policy issues--she is completely lacking in decent character; and 2) she is not in this to lead--she is in this to win. She will do and say anything to win, and her concern will always be power, not leadership. I could say more, but I would be preachin' to the choir. Now that you found something on my blog to use, I am so going use a lot of your post! :-)

I wasn’t aware of most of the changes in Hillary’s positions you describe here. Those examples and your concluding paragraphs all reinforce some things I have said about Hillary, namely that 1) forget about policy issues–she is completely lacking in decent character; and 2) she is not in this to lead–she is in this to win. She will do and say anything to win, and her concern will always be power, not leadership.

I could say more, but I would be preachin’ to the choir.

]]>